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present (ass. Lucchini, Moroni, Lavanga, Paleari, Magistrelli G. e Lucato)
- Approvazione verbali della seduta precedente (30 novembre 2010).
- Comunicazioni del Sindaco sull'attività del Comune e su fatti ed avvenimenti di particolare interesse per la comunità (art. 66 - Regolamento Consiglio Comunale).
- Question submitted by Councillor Louis Mr. Lucato - Council Chamber Group "Living Pogliano - 10.12.2010 Prot N.14444 of the object "Document delivery mode."
- Companies held by the municipality. Adaptation of the provisions of art. 3, Sections 27-28-29 Law 244/2007 and subsequent amendments and additions.
- Consideration and approval of amending the Statute Consortium Ser.Co.p.: change of name and changes in special company consortium related.
- Authorized by the Financial Forecast for the year 2010 the Consortium of Human Services Rho (Ser.Co.p.).
- Withdrawal of Resolution No. CC 27 of 30/04/2009 to the subject: "Agreement between the City of Pogliano Milanese and amateur sports association AC Pogliano 1950 for granting the use of municipal sports facilities for the game of football into the structure called the Municipal Sports Center located Via C. Church and approval of new draft Convention that are covered.
- Three-year 2010/2012 and 2010 annual list of public works: changes.
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1. Approval of minutes of previous meeting (November 30, 2010).
Lazzaroni, we are able to register as agreed last time?
It is anticipated point 8
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8. Three-year plan 2010/2012 and 2010 annual list of public works: changes.
Armani : We are to 21 December and not toviamo very interesting works of three-year plan of 2010. For this we will not.
Vote:
favor: 9 (majority)
Abstain: 2 (minority)
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2. Communications on the activities of the Mayor of the City and on facts and events of particular interest to the community (Article 66 - Rules of the City Council).
congratulations for participation in Usual Unidentified
Mayor : the mayors of Vanzago Pregnana and we are in discussion with the Foundation Ferrario the increase in fees. Sorry for the way there, because non siamo stati avvertiti in precedenza. Fatto l'incontro con il presidente Lombardi e il nostro rappresentante comunale; ci hanno spiegato le problematiche, ma comunque non siamo d'accordo sull'aumento delle rette del 6% già dal 1 gennaio 2011. Noi stiamo chiedendo di spalmare questo aumento in 3 anni. Prossimo incontro il 30 dicembre.
Lazzaroni : non ero a conoscenza, anche se qualche avvisaglia c'era. La domanda è se si è recuperato il contributo della Regione Lombardia di 40K€ non concesso per questioni burocratiche.
Mariani : i 40K€ incidono solo in parte, perché il passivo previsto dalla Fondazione Ferrario è di più di 300K€. Il problema della Regione Lombardia is related to the different lists and discounts for common Vanzago Pregnana and Pogliano. Certainly the € 40K would help, especially in order to spread the increase over 3 years. We were perplexed because a council have asked us to reduce discounts (from 15% to 10%) and we agreed and after the increase in fees.
compliment because she was appointed CEO of ... by Podesta, president of the province of Milan
Carlo Musa donation for medical device-to-school Salvini
a Mario Rossi per telo della sala consiglio
Come maggioranza abbiamo deciso di introdurre sul giornalino uno spazio per il gruppo di maggioranza e per il gruppo di minoranza
Invito quindi a Lazzaroni a ritirare le dimissioni dal comitato di redazione.
Speriamo di fare 3 numeri nel 2011
Lazzaroni : il comitato di redazione ha senso se bisogna verificare il rispetto di opinioni e spazi. Non ha senso che si dica un'opinione
Rimangono le perplessità su tutte le parti politiche comunque presenti nel giornalino e fino ad esso abbiamo contestato la mancanza di spazio per una voce alternativa come quella di minoranza.
Le dimissioni derivavano dal fatto anche che la convocazione arrivava senza avere a disposizione articoli e documenti.
Carnovali : l'idea iniziale era quello di fare un notiziario dove si spiegavano le cose in modo oggettive. Poi discutendo ci siamo accorti che quello che ci veniva detto aveva un senso. Ci scusiamo per non essere riusciti a farlo già in questo numero. Dal prossimo rimedieremo.
Si anticipa il punto 4.
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4. Società partecipate dal comune. Adeguamento alle disposizioni previste dall'art. 3, commi 27-28-29 Legge 244/2007 e successive modifiche ed integrazioni.
Risi : is an obligation under the budget bill.
Armani: The CIMEP is dissolved as a consortium or to leave us.
Irmici : before June 30 will dissolve the consortium.
Armani: I have not seen the other hand, our participation in PIM (Plan Inter Milan), which is a study center
Mayor : probably missing because it is not a company. Are reviewing the statute. Anyway check it
Vote: unanimous (13, Lucato Magistrelli G. and arrived in the meantime)
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3. Question submitted by Councillor Mr. Louis Municipal Lucato - Council Chamber Group "Living Pogliano - 10.12.2010 Prot N.14444 the cover:" How the delivery documents. "
Lucato : Resume request a registered January 7, 2010 which asked to make available to the resolutions reached by email. I ask then why was not responded to that request.
Mayor : on paper have always been sent. Online we still have problems, as the IT service is not ready yet. The service was informed. However, the offices are gearing up to do so by the 1st of January 2011.
Lucato We agree. The regret is not have had a response at the time and had to resubmit a query.
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5. Review and approve amending the Statute Consortium Ser.Co.p.: change of name to the Special Agency Consortium and related changes.
Mariani : it is a fulfillment of a law of 2009.
Vote: unanimous (13)
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6. Take note of the budget for the year 2010 the Consortium of Human Services Rho (Ser.Co.p.).
Mariani: I had mentioned came in last with alarming shades because the cuts were of concern at national level. Something came back and we had to do some cutting. The good news was that the final Lombardy funds have increased and that Lombardy has allocated funds in extremis. He then attempted to prop up the essential services and those who have an established structure in time. I suggested to see what charging for certain services. Having to cut
still a few hundred thousand euro, and then something we had to cut some activities and you will see if you can still do. What has changed is that our move went from about 250K to 300K € € because we transfer some management activities with the resources
confirm the choice of the consortium such as the affiliate and the Neutral Space exorbitant costs that would have for the individual municipality.
The SAD (Home Care Service), instead it will keep still at the municipal level.
Lazzaroni : vote in favor because there are good prospects: a critique of the national government on these cuts affecting services and are not wasted. We share an appreciation of the local plan that Rho is probably one of the best in Italy and on which some of the concerns in past years, when in fact it is this that allows you to carry out certain services
Mayor : volevo ringraziare le due persone che si occupano del SAD perché veramente si prendono in carico in tempo reale delle problematiche e questo non è così comune e diffuso.
Votazione: unanimità (12, Risi è uscita)
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7. Revoca Deliberazione di C.C. n. 27 del 30/04/2009 ad oggetto:"Convenzione tra il Comune di Pogliano Milanese e l'associazione sportiva dilettantistica A.C. Pogliano 1950 per la concessione in uso degli impianti sportivi comunali destinati al gioco del calcio, inseriti nella struttura denominata Centro Sportivo Comunale ubicato in Via C. Chiesa e approvazione nuova bozza di convenzione pari oggetto.
Carnovali : al nostro insediamento l'associazione calcistica ci ha chiesto di rivedere la convenzione che la vecchia amministrazione aveva appena approvato (aprile 2009). Rivedendo la convenzione alcuni punti a nostro avviso potevano essere migliorati. Gli aspetti che abbiamo deciso di modificare sono:
- definire come dovesse avvenire la comunicazione delle parti
- aumentato il massimale dell'assicurazione da 1,5M€ a 3M€
- abbiamo ritenuto che fosse più corretto il calcolo originario di 10K€ (approvato in giunta) da pagare da parte dell'associazione rispetto ai circa 6K€ approvato poi in consiglio comunale.
Abbiamo concordato la tariffa in 12.8K€ che l'associazione will deliver services through, in particular through the maintenance of areas not dedicated to football at the sports center.
Could also do a new agreement and keep the old one, but for more "clean" we decided to present a new convention.
Armani : I would have liked that there were in council leaders AC football because I would have enjoyed a bit '. Why this convention did not go well yesterday, today Poglianese is willing to sign it even though it will cost more. I'm happy for the town because it improves. I only embittered that for a year I asked the leaders to sign the Convention and items were available but not in practice. I hope that realizzeranno effettivamente le opere promesse.
Ci sono però alcuni elementi su cui abbiamo perso un'occasione. Quanto paghiamo per il centro sportivo in un anno? Con la convenzione avevamo introdotto due novità: - il fatto che la Poglianese avesse una quantità di tempo limitato per l'utilizzo degli spazi (2.000 ore). Nelle altre ore poteva essere disponibili per altri. Questo elemento è stato mantenuto solo parzialmente. Oggi invece il tutto dipende dai calendari che la Poglianese presenterà
- avevamo cercato di responsabilizzare la Poglianese su alcune spese, come ad esempio l'illuminazione di cui spesso si abusava. Quando abbiamo realizzato la nuova illuminazione abbiamo esplicitamente richiesto di suddividere i contatori elettrici to charge a handling fee. Similarly, we set out to build a well for irrigation in order to save about € 15K for this user. We hypothesized
transform the field of synthetic No.2 in order to reduce maintenance costs and be able to assume the lease.
I also want to remember that today we abrogate the agreement into force, and thus the town of Pogliano should collect about € 9K per year and a half in which the Convention was in force even if the Poglianese not signed it. Other companies (volleyball, the elderly, etc..) Charges to pay, even if they have not signed any agreement.
Horse: Armani first showed a map of red and green. Why not have prevented the realization of the fields and the fact that they occupy all fields. Why do you blame us because we do make the cut grass.
Lucato : I noted the similarity with the previous convention. Add two small observations. The first is the control. Who will check? Now there is a service company with the means to intervene and force them to clean well (eg invoices) and how to intervene in case of defaults. It also provides for a penalty of € 200 for serious failures, but how do you define these?
Mayor: It is hard to say, but it happened to me twice. The open water when it rains or the lights on at night are serious shortcomings.
Lucato : The other point is: I as a citizen if I wanted to use those soccer fields as I do? Who to ask?
Carnovali : Regarding the costs are around € 100K. We have initiated a study for the energy of the playground to reduce costs such as heating.
concerns cost the problem exists because you can not distinguish those of the individual activities. There is an intention to proceed in this direction.
On payment of utility bills but we thought we wanted to preserve the appearance of the grant and not to yield management. We wanted to retain the right to use the field sports. Because we believe that every citizen should be able to do it.
in the Convention are the obligations of the association including the ones to turn off the lights, water, etc.. Who is used to check not only the technical office and the office sports? We have also added to the Municipal Police.
The well is in the plans because they savings will actually interesting and amortises shortly. About the reported €
9K ask the Town Clerk to check if they actually have to pay, in which case it will surely do.
Magistrelli G. : discourse as a priority of use is related to how an association is organized. Regarding
the contribution I have a question. Why Poglianese could use the sports center with an agreement expired, then in some way abusive.
And in the past, for example, in 2001, the Poglianese had £ 13M of contributions and did not pay anything.
wondering if the convention can add the name of the Sports Center.
Lazzaroni in 2001 contributions were given to all clubs, as is done in Italy and as you also probably, the Poglianese has always paid for by the contributions were withheld because they had to.
Armani : the contribution was mainly for the tournament Executioner.
Lazzaroni : the important thing is to decide what to do with this debt if there is, if not already paid it or decide to pay bonuses.
Mayor: we have not had reports of non-payment by the officials. Still occur.
Ranieri: I just wanted to add that this center has been a problem since birth, or as expenses such as maintenance. I wish it were not the responsibility given to us of all problems. There is the issue of costs is serious. The question of the well is untenable, because the water does not allow the consortium to build a well so no counter. We could talk about recovery of rainwater, rather than the well. Only the tanks should be very large. This can only be releasing a new structure. I agree with the idea of \u200b\u200blooking for savings in energy and electric field. In particular, a geothermal plant could also serve as nursery school.
Carnovali : Well when I said I wanted to recover rainwater.
Trevino : no one said that the convention starting was not good, we worked on some points and the association has probably appreciated more because it has accepted
Armani, but they already signed? Because we too have said yes several times
Moroni: I wanted to emphasize the shock to the presence of Crown Pogliano also advertised on settegiorni. There seems to be a model, given that the charges in chief.
Mayor: we do not take the credit for this invitation. We have been invited and there we found him. We too are disappointed I do not think it was an official invitation, but a call from a parent who is a friend of the Crown. We took the pictures as it always does in these cases when there is a celebrity.
Lazzaroni : the appointment is made on the photograph next to the Crown because it is a character who may be acquitted but for now it is certainly not an example.
Carnovali : It was maybe 5 minutes. The leadership of Poglianese was not very happy.
Mariani: I wanted to speak on the subject, as Deputy Mayor for Education. I think for young kids is not still a good example. I would propose to send a letter to the President of Poglianese to intervene on the parent who made the call because an event that never happens again.
Irmici : I do not agree that Corona will be a person to challenge but it can go wherever he wants.
Lazzaroni : Corona you can do with all the photos you want in private but a public event the mayor is a bit 'too.
Mayor: whether to take so many pictures with people who may not have the name, but are even worse.
Vote:
favor: 9 (majority)
Abstain: 4 (minority - Moroni arrived in the meantime)
The board towards the end 20.30.
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