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Il Consiglio Comunale di Pogliano Milanese begins Tuesday, September 27 at 18:40
all present except: Magistrelli G.
The agenda is as follows:
all present except: Magistrelli G.
The agenda is as follows:
- approve minutes of previous meeting (July 13, 2010).
- 's announcements on the activities of the City Mayor and to facts and events of particular interest to the community (Article 66 - Rules of the City Council).
- Municipal Plan for the Right to Education Anno Scolastico 2010/2011: approvazione.
- Mozione presentata dal consigliere comunale Sig.a Moroni Giulia - Gruppo Consiliare “Vivere Pogliano” – Prot. N. 9064 del 31.07.2010 ad oggetto: “Anti ‘ndrangheta”.
- Ratifica deliberazione di Giunta Comunale n. 98 del 09/09/2010 ad oggetto: Variazioni al Bilancio di Previsione dell'Esercizio Finanziario 2010.
- Ricognizione sullo stato di attuazione dei programmi e verifica della salvaguardia degli equilibri di bilancio ai sensi dell’art. 193 D.Lgs. 267/2000.
- Approvazione nuovo accounting regulations.
- Articles 1-2-3 Changes of Technical Implementation Plan of the existing Cemetery.
- regulatory approval for the award of contracts for the design of the external lower amount to 100.000,00 .- Euro for the construction of public works.
- Adoption Convention between the common axis of the Simplon for the joint management of local police - Regional Law 4 / 03.
Present: all except Magistrelli G.
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approve minutes of previous meeting (July 13, 2010).
Approved.
Lazzaroni : I point out that the time of 18:30 for the advice it is difficult for everyone.
We also want to make condolence to the mayor for the deaths that occurred in August.
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's announcements on the activities of the City Mayor and to facts and events of particular interest to the community (Article 66 - Rules of the City Council).
- Thanksgiving feast for Cavallo asked for the floor. Horse : I wanted to thank the Mayor for the hospitality offered by the city in recent days for the festival. I also thank Carnovali and the brigade commander for the scholarship.
- consultations with Mayor : convened and elected the President Carla Cozzi.
- Greetings Lavanga Mayor : since today is his birthday
- Thanks to kindergarten Mayor : for work performed
- open forums Mayor : October 15 to 21 hours Bettolino, to talk with the people
- Business Council Mayor: we'll see a little ', although the majority seems to prefer the hours of 18:30
- Distinction Mayor : Delivery to honor George Giuliani October 6
- November 4 Mayor, on that date we will dedicate the bridge in Via Ronchetti Mother Teresa Zanda
- November 17 Mayor : celebrating the two hundred years old this year
- theft bicycle station Vanzago Mayor : arrived in these days of reporting this problem. We will meet with mayors and Pregnana Vanzago and also the vice mayor is concerned.
We anticipate the points 8 and 9.
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Articles 1-2-3 Changes of Technical Implementation Plan of the existing Cemetery.
Lavanga : amendment of the regulation to increase the possibility of raising a meter and a half the height of the graves. Unfortunately in the past someone did not follow the norm.
Mayor : In this period we have rebuilt a number of regulations. Probably should be redone also the police cemetery. We would also like for the future, to reserve an area, such as they did in Nerviano, to do the same for all of the graves.
Vote: unanimously approved
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regulatory approval for the award of contracts for the design of the external lower amount to 100.000,00 .- Euro for the construction of public works.
Lavanga : it is a simple rule, which now have all the municipalities. This regulation allows us to streamline procedures and thank you a questo possiamo lavorare sui progetti piccoli con professionisti della zona e possibilmente conosciuti. Abbiamo copiato il regolamento di altri comuni, prevedendo fino a 20.000 Euro l'incarico diretto e sopra la gara. Ora anche per i progetti piccoli di 1.000 Euro dovevamo fare gare lunghe.
Lucchini : sono d'accordo sullevitare le lungaggini burocratiche. Però questo regolamento si scontra con le leggi dello Stato che tendono proprio ad impedire che l'incarico a conoscenti. Quindi lo condivido in linea di principio ma non so quanto sia corretto.
Lavanga : noi abbiamo visto l'appalto delle strade, che era di solo 300.000€. Nell'albo c'era gente di Pescara, Taranto, etc. Abbiamo preferito i professionisti closest game because force can operate better. Among the other without this regulation we are obliged not to invite those who have already called. At the next work we should invite professional far away. Anything we did with the internal design, but resources are few.
Risi: I share the concerns of Lucchini, but I would understand better. The law expressly prohibit the direct award?
Lucchini : No, but legislation is moving to exclude the true risks of monopoly.
Risi : however every time the award is reported to the Court of Auditors.
Lazzaroni : I think mostly the problem sia cronico, perché negli uffici non si riesce a fare la progettazione. Sotto una certa entità sarebbe opportuno che l'ufficio tecnico riuscisse a fare la progettazione.
Lavanga : alcune attività del progetto sono molto specialistiche (calcoli statici, idraulici, termo-dinamici, etc.). Comunque alcune attività vanno fatte fuori, tipo i collaudi. Quindi questo regolamento serve per snellire le attività.
Ranieri : se noi avessimo un ufficio tecnico qualificato tutti questi progetti potrebbero essere fatti all'interno. Per i piccoli lavori si ha la necessità spesso di avere il professionista a disposizione in tempi brevi.
Votazione:
Favorevoli: 11 (maggioranza)
Abstain: 5 (minority)
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Municipal Plan for the Right to Education School Year 2010/2011: approval.
Mariani : in my ears as we heard on television about the cuts to schools and local authorities. We have therefore chosen to do as much as did last year with the same resources.
From a numerical point of view, the school has increased by Ronchetti students, kindergarten well, less than primary.
Projects submitted by the schools were all accepted by rationalization in particular in the primary. Indeed, we have found most of the professionals Economic and brought them to the school, pointing out that we would have funded the lower cost.
Regarding the management of schools, although it would be covered by the Ministry, we decided to help anyway.
A new feature this year is that the projects submitted by different but at the cost 0. In addition to that on the monitoring and road safety education in cooperation with the brigade of Pogliano, ongoing for years have been added:
- the school by tram,
- in collaboration with the brigade in Milan,
- Civil Protection in schools;
- help with the tasks, that is an opportunity with some retired teachers to help children in particular in the middle of tasks;
- una borsa di studio per chi nelle scuole medie riuscisse ad essere promosso con il massimo dei voti, cioè con il 10 e lode.
Lucchini : prendo atto che avete stralciato il progetto sull'educazione condominiale. È stato fatto?
Mariani : il progetto viene riproposto con il nome di educazione civica. È stato tenuto l'anno scorso dal comandante Capri. Abbiamo portato i ragazzi a vedere nei giardini a vedere gli atti vandalici. Lo riproniamo quest'anno sotto forma di educazione civica.
Le tariffe hanno subito dei lievi ritocchi:
- ristorazione: 4a, 5a e 6a fascia sono state aumentate (dai 10 a 25 centesimi), non sono state toccate le fascie più basse
- trasporto scolastico: from 160 to 180 Euro. The operator has an indication of very low coverage and a substantial cost to the municipality, but delivers, for example, the kindergarten, only 8 children. In all we are talking about 100 children. We must think of some alternative solution.
- before and after school for 2 Euro, the coverage ratio is good enough
The grants to private schools was made last year was
summarized the document, removing some information that we feel are unnecessary, such as cards detail of individual projects.
Lazzaroni : I am a bit 'disappointed and concerned by this document. The assessment is negative, because that fact that they are missing le schede progettualil limita la possibilità di controllare cosa si sta finanziando al di là di un titolo, mi sembra preoccupante. Così come il fatto che siano spariti i grafici e i raffronti con gli anni precedenti. Non sottovaluterei gli aumenti, perché sono più importanti di quanto si possa immaginare.
Inoltre evidenzio che quanto avete scritto sulle risorse disponibili a scuola mi sembra un evidente fallimento della politica scolastica di questo governo: a Pogliano sono venute meno risorse di personale nelle varie scuole.
Non mi sembra vero che si faccia di più con meno, perché le tariffe aumentano e le famiglie spenderanno almeno 100€ in più all'anno.
Si riduce l'utilizzo della Carta dei Servizi that was the most innovative land for the payment, because you can not handle those who do not pay. At the bottom is like a credit card.
are becoming increasingly went their own municipal vouchers to families that had financial difficulties. Gone are the funding and were not renewed. Last year it was granted 38 to € 150.
Convention on the Chaniac, I say that is mentioned here in force since 1 September, but we have not seen it yet, so it's still a draft.
the end from what I see the Chaniac will receive less money than was expected previously.
Throughout the document there is one line that says there have been increases. I understand
economic difficulties, but there were also five years earlier.
on transportation, school bus service for primary and secondary education is indispensable for those who live such a barge; service for nursery school has a residual cost because the coach has already committed to primary and secondary schools.
One last point: some families have not found a place in kindergarten and have been diverted to pay full fares Vanzago where as non-residents. This does not seem correct, because if they had found a place in Pogliano would pay in proportion to their income.
The only good thing is that there has been the convening of the Committee for the Right to study.
Mariani : Regarding the design cards, I removed because I believe that the substance is somewhere else. For example, why a man earned, for example Euro 8200 which seem to me too.
on comparisons in the figures of a year there is a distortion because the figures are not consolidated. For example, there are 40,000 Euro of digits to recover, I'm calling people one by one. The focus on families means also hear these people and evaluate each case. These seem to me more important things.
increases are important because in the past have not been made. I accept full responsibility.
Lazzaroni : the increase he proposes for the table, for example as it increases the degree of coverage of the cafeteria? I ask because the data are not here and you can not be calculated from the document. The missing data are not available. Without the cards I financed the project title, but do not know how they last, how many classes involved, how many hours. Otherwise it can control the city council?
Mariani: I think that the important things are the other type of professional who earned too much. The cards were checked by the office and some have been postponed.
Lazzaroni, but control over the office can make the city council, minority parents.
Mariani: The service charter is been reformed to be used only to pay for the mess. Both families who do not like the paper of accountancy services. We have applied for postal.
Lazzaroni : You say that so people prefer to go to places and bring the report to the office rather than using the card services.
Mayor : definitely not easy to make this work the recovery of claims. We are seeing that meals are paid 100, but those are paid 90. So part of the controls you might also be able to reduce costs. We also see the waste and for the rental of our houses, that since we all are paying increased rents.
Lazzaroni : the difficulty Administrator, open backgrounds. We lived for 5 years. € 40,000 These are largely late payments, delinquencies have never been in better shape than many had Pogliano and the surrounding communities.
Mariani : With regard to the municipal Voucher, the regional funding has ended and there was no possibility of refinancing. About the
Chaniac have probably canceled to try to recover the deficit. In addition to providing assistance as it is important to check how much data is used.
Lazzaroni : reporting on the maintenance has been produced, as well as the attendance, which is what I asked for the convention. The agreement on which information is missing, but I see that the contributions fall, because it is no longer recognized the adjustment Istat.
Mariani : the Convention has not yet been signed. The amounts are set annually.
As for the school, one option is to meet its timetable or to car sharing.
The Law Commission study last year last year I did not have time to do so this year we made it to June because luckily we managed to time the requests.
Lucato : I wanted to focus on the general price increases. They range from a 5 / 6%, up to 11%. It is true that the rates did not touch for some years, but this was probably not this time.
I see that there was an increase for the other users of the table, such as the elderly who had authorized an increase of 25%.
I also note that with regard to the funding made to the school, the funding pro-rata for the kindergarten child falls from € 42 and € 33 for the primary school you go down by 25%. The phrase
do more with less, it seems to me that was not
On the voucher, I have heard that there were 38 applications: how they were managed. Sorry
project that has not been re-proposed environmental education project that was proposed several years and is a sin.
Mariani : funding pro-rata is a significant fact.
Vouchers municipal funding came from the regional funds of which were completed last year.
Risi : on increasing proportion of the fees, it is also important to look at the absolute amounts. € 20 per year for transportation in such absolute terms, not much. It is right that all other citizens pay for these citizens.
Lazzaroni : it is different, however, ask € 200 for a family to send their children to school, that asking for € 1 to all citizens.
Cavallo: I wanted to respond to Lucato because pull out all the things now? It was the first since the junta's center-left what have you got? Nothing.
Lucato : maybe I got it for four years there has been an increase in rates
Horse : so we need to raise rates to us and take the demerit.
Lucato : I as president represents the will of all the parents committee, had the objectives to be achieved.
Armani : it is not to say that it is difficult to administer, because I did it for 30 years. There are difficulties, the budget is what it is, the transfers decrease. In all this there are political responsibilities, not only yours, but also cuts the central government transfers. It's not that we do not have increased, creating a huge hole. The coverage level was very high and even some rates were high, such as the canteen. That there was a need to increase budgetary difficulties there may be, but it must be said clearly. I want to emphasize that these comments were themed and constructive.
Mayor : This must be recognized. Although it is sometimes difficult to compare from municipality to municipality.
Moroni: I wondered if I am going to ask the question has to do with the right alls study. I am referring to high school students. In particular, the school bus for these students does not cover the actual needs, due to the reorganization of the public transport network two years ago at the provincial level. I therefore ask the administration if it is concerned with the topic and whether it will intervene. In particular, it speaks for Parabiago and Legnano.
Mariani : the table of school policy for now is only spoken of IREP. From next Monday we will also discuss other issues and this is an issue that could be brave.
Lazzaroni : respect for families who are forced to go to Vanzago for kindergarten?
Vote:
Favorable: 11 (majority - out Lavanga, arrived Magistrelli G.)
Against: 5 (minority)
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Mozione presentata dal consigliere comunale Sig.a Moroni Giulia - Gruppo Consiliare “Vivere Pogliano” – Prot. N. 9064 del 31.07.2010 ad oggetto: “Anti ‘ndrangheta”.
Moroni : l'ho presentata a luglio, dopo la retata nella notte tra il 12/13 luglio. Anche se è passato del tempo, vale la pena parlarne. Anche perché nonostante chi ci governa vorrebbe farci credere che le infiltrazioni mafiose non esistono, in realtà ci sono e ci sono nel nostro territorio. Pensiamo alle procedure di snellimento in vista di Expo 2015; chiediamo quindi all'amministrazione di stare in guardia e di esprimere formalmente this position.
Mariani : Expo at the table, which I attended as a delegate of the mayor, has already been addressed this issue and a motion signed by the mayors, then brought to the attention of Moratti and other administrators involved. About who governs us and who is above, I wanted to congratulate the Minister Maroni, who has been operating for a few years and has streamlined the list of fugitives.
Grimoldi : I wanted to make just one comment. There was the agriculture minister Zaia always pecking food fraud. Well, when you are caught because it means that there are controls.
Moroni : it should be noted that the success depends on the interception. We hope that it remains as a tool.
Ranieri : while agreeing in principle as written by Councillor I believe there are any corrections to be made. We therefore call for a suspension.
the motion is changed with the phrase "thanks to the coordination of government and in particular the Ministry of Interior."
Vote:
Favorable: 13 (majority - minority)
Abstain: 2 (Ranieri, Paleari)
Trevino exit.
Ranieri: I abstained, although I agree with the argument in its fullness. But as group leader of the PDL do not agree with the phrase "through the use of wiretaps," because politically manipulated. We know that this instrument should continue to exist for Ndrangheta and Mafia, has produced some incredible disaster. The crime is not just that of the Ndrangheta mafia, but also prostitution and the Roma that you defend a sword.
Paleari: I support the declaration of Rainier, especially the last points on Roma and prostitution.
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Ratification of City Council Resolution No. 98 of 09/09/2010 concerning: Changes to the budget of the financial year 2010.
Risi : we received some requests:
- from € 10,000 to socio-cultural, perché ci sono state due classi nuove da attrezzare;
- dall'area Lavori Pubblici per manutenzione nido, materna, cimitero, case comunali.
- per la manutenzione delle fognature dobbiamo per forza cedere la gestione della fognatura per circa 80.000€
Le maggiori spese sono state coperte da:
- oneri via Cavour e via Matteotti,
- maggiori trasferimenti dallo stato
- dividendi da AMIA Acque
Armani : abbiamo votato contro il bilancio, perché non erano indicati gli investimenti e le entrate erano sotto stimate. Dopo 3 settimane, il bilancio è stato modificato. È stata ventilata l'ipotesi di fare un mutuo per sistemare il centro sportivo.
I pagamenti for improving roads in 2011 are expected to respect the stability pact. I wonder how you will do so next year.
is rumored among other things, that is preparing a decree that requires payment in 60 days by the government. How will the Stability Pact is not known.
I see this resolution to come, go and touch up what we had shown during the approval of the budget, that transfers from the state were underestimated. We had at the time suggested the creation of a social fund, indicating where you could take the money, that is precisely the transfers from the state underestimated.
Today, those funds are used, but to pay for schools, jobs, stipendi accessori per i dipendenti comunali. Per questo ci asterremo, così come sul punto successivo che norma gli emendamenti. È infatti già oggi ovvio che un emendamento di bilancio deve essere equilibrato come spese e entrate.
Risi : dovrei darti le stesse risposte che ho dato in fase di approvazione del bilancio. Sui trasferimenti abbiamo avuto un approccio prudenziale. Sul patto di stabilità, sarebbe piaciuto anche a me non avere debiti pregressi. Anche noi abbiamo dovuto far fronte a pagamenti di lavori di anni passati.
Per quanto riguarda le aziende e la crisi, già adesso le banche le finanziano sulla base delle fatture, con bassi tassi di interesse (circa il 2%).
Sul fondo di solidarità, può be subject to further change the budget if there were resources.
Vote:
favor: 9 (majority - Ranieri out)
Abstain: 4 (minority, Lazzaroni out temporarily)
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Survey on the implementation and verification of programs for safeguarding the budget balances pursuant to art. 193 Leg. 267/2000.
Risi : Text unique local authorities require this test by 30 / 9 of each year.
We asked the report to the leaders of each area, in particular the presence of off-balance sheet debt. Regarding
€ 3,500 have revenue less than expected as a tribute. However, we also lower costs € 48,000. So the balance is positive.
Also with regard to waste the salo is good. In the technical field
the amounts provided have been committed to 90% in the other areas between 40 and 60%.
on investment has been committed, 49% predicted.
The favorable opinions are needed, including that of Auditor of Accounts Act.
Armani : we will not do because it works with public payments already provided for in the future. I noticed that you have collected € 612 for the disposal of assets then this is the result of dramatized on the right surface. Ricordo che ci sono 32 famiglie che aspettano di completare l'atto di vendita.
Votazione:
Favorevoli: 9 (maggioranza)
Astenuti: 5 (minoranza)
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Approvazione nuovo regolamento di contabilità.
Risi : il documento precedente era del 1998, quindi un po' vecchiotto anche se non del tutto superato. Una delle società partecipate dal comune ci ha richiesto una fidejussione che non era prevista nel regolamento. Abbiamo quindi deciso di effettuare questa modifica e recepito anche quanto previsto nel Testo Unico degli Enti Locali. I punti più interessanti sono:
- la possibilità to make a bail (with council approval)
- those arising from the choice of having a single auditor of the accounts (to regulate when and how a termination of the assignment to non-compliance or lack of it)
The address of the amendments, I species is, why the amendment tabled by Armani was not correct from a formal point of view.
Lazzaroni : nothing to complain about the regulations.
to the amendments:
1. not properly find that it is standardized in the regulation of accounting and not that of the municipal council
2. I would not like there were too many formalisms on budget amendments, which are basically political in nature. Rely on forma a volte sembra un modo di non affrontare il tema nella sostanza.
Se viene tolto questo punto votiamo a favore, altrimenti ci asteniamo.
Il Sindaco decide comunque di procedere con il regolamento così come presentato senza ulteriori modifiche.
Si procede alla votazione:
Favorevoli: 9 (maggioranza)
Astenuti: 4 (minoranza, Armani uscito)
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Approvazione convenzione tra i comuni dell'asse del Sempione per la gestione associata dei servizi di Polizia Locale - Legge Regionale 4/03.
Sindaco : la convenzione è pre-esistente. Scade il 13/11 e hanno chiesto di aggiungersi the municipalities of Arese and Cerro Maggiore. Wood is the joint leader. The brigade commander is satisfied with this agreement.
Lucchini, but there are some visible effects for the population?
Mayor : to have resources and facilities shared between commands
Brigade Commander: There have been several situations in which the Convention has been very helpful. For example, for an 'investigation we were able to leverage the work of colleagues in other commands. In an emergency we cover each other, you can make exchanges of material without special procedures.
The agreement allows us to rationalize the resources or the availability of more forces to interventions such as road patrols.
Lucchini : in the agreement also includes evening patrols of the area?
Brigade Commander: No, but we can rationalize the patrols. Even for the upgrade to take advantage of what we already do such larger municipalities.
Mayor : the Convention is very useful for a small town like ours. We must also thank the police, who gave us a hand after my calls or even the horse adviser.
Vote:
Favorable: 13 (unanimity)
The board ends around 22.00.
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